I'm not even sure where the dispute is here. Nor am I sure why putin's rise to power has anything to do with red lines...
I'm not even saying that Ukraine on either front was a good idea. Nothing but bad ideas here, but the world is a lot less law and order, and a lot more Sopranos. The only rule is what you can do, and what you can't.
NATO pushed, Russia said that's far enough.
Why is that contentious?
