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ConscientiousPoster on Nostr: >Free will almost contradicts itself in that you are meant to be separate from the ...

>Free will almost contradicts itself in that you are meant to be separate from the causes and effects of your decision, yet inherent to the idea is things could be different under the right circumstances Do you mean that free will is still a part of the process of cause and effect, not entirely separated, despite how it’s supposed to be something above or entirely independent from it? The mind can create future possible worlds, see different possibilities and make a selection from there, the material of the world and its laws are still there and we act more like a droplet into a turbulent ocean is how I view this.

It’s very interesting to me how you don’t associate rigidity with something undesirable despite still wanting some sort of freedom, however forced. Usually people want to break away from the constraints of reality wholesale in some way. In the Japanese this Fatalism is expressed in either suicide or some erotic and fetishistic release, or a mixture of the two as expressed in lovers suicide. I’m half sure the Japanese interest in incest comes from this, but I’ve not read enough of non-anime/LN Japanese literature for this to be anything but a guess. I’m saying this just to draw a parallel, even if it’s comparing the heroic courage of the Norse with sexual depravity, there’s still a similarity in how both views of Fatalism don’t center on the acceptance of it.

I think the commonality between the idea of Free Will, of ultimate freedom of choice outside of the material circumstance we are subjected to, and the common person’s dislike for rigidity and social rules is the franchisement that comes from facing a reality that places someone as the center of his own path. That this desire keeps popping up despite everything in seemingly cyclical fashions speak more to human nature, as far as I can speculate I mean.

I’m probably just restating the obvious.