<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>Seodan wrote</title><author_name>Seodan (npub1kc…7hjl4)</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.now/npub1kck3x6kh3krej5esvwy6ujp0g5e3af8ehec8ulc7e7zuyplappss27hjl4</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.now</provider_url><html>This was a very worthwhile podcast with nostr:nprofile1qqsyx708d0a8d2qt3ku75avjz8vshvlx0v3q97ygpnz0tllzqegxrtgpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmd9uchr0qv and nostr:nprofile1qqs2xs05tluhtr6hpgsmqqxp04898gayjlyrjlexcrndv8j6el784xqpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdmksetjv5hxxmmd9ugxrggw because it opened the debate of credit in a future Bitcoin world 🙏&#xA;&#xA;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7XhzXMSAPo&amp;t=8410Not&#xA;&#xA;It raises my eyebrow when Michael speaks of putting consumers&#39; BTC into custody of &#34;trustworthy banks&#34; to earn yield 🤔&#xA;&#xA;- Why would banks alone provide such services? In a real Bitcoin world, can&#39;t there be peer-to-peer, decentralized, self-custody borrowing and lending? Wouldn&#39;t that be worthwhile to build and support? It&#39;s being done, but the Bitcoiner resentment is strong.&#xA;&#xA;It also makes me listen carefully when Saifedean responds that credit eventually only works with a lender of last resort and that with a deflationary currency credit will be less and less attractive over time.&#xA;&#xA;- I would have loved if Michael had given Saifedean more opportunity to elaborate on that. However, at the moment, I also see credit as driver for economic activity, for sure in a transition period, but even in a Bitcoinized world. Interest rates play the role as the price of money. There won&#39;t be that massive fractional reserve lending anymore ... but still, especially on a peer-to-peer decentralized basis, simple lending and borrowing seem like natural activities, no?!&#xA;&#xA;Now, even with Bitcoin as deflationary currency creating abundance in society through falling prices all around, wouldn&#39;t there still be the demand for credit finance? nostr:nprofile1qqsg86qcm7lve6jkkr64z4mt8lfe57jsu8vpty6r2qpk37sgtnxevjcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpp3mhxue69uhkyunz9e5k7qgkwaehxw309ahx7um5wghx7mnnv968xtn0wfnsurtqc6&#xA;&#xA;I think that&#39;s a highly relevant topic for Bitcoiners to wrap their head around and I&#39;d be glad to read/hear more about it and go through possible scenarios 🙏</html></oembed>