<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><title>cbb wrote</title><author_name>cbb (npub1xf…cua9j)</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.now/npub1xf7pnv2ncxsmtrc4ht50xz8j8wd3un0g3c9ecjza3pg596k4tvvs6cua9j</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.now</provider_url><html>@simplex although I am fairly new to this world, I have been using Simplex for some time now as a privacy / sovereignty maxi, so I’m writing this in good faith but from a hostile threat-model. &#xA;&#xA;I also do not claim to understand all the technical details here. I am clearly using AI to help me understand and get my point across, still that shouldn&#39;t take away from the message I am trying to convey. &#xA;&#xA;First, respect where it’s due:&#xA;– Novel protocol, no protocol-level user IDs.&#xA;– Serious work on metadata resistance + private routing.&#xA;– Clear stance vs MLS and client-side scanning.&#xA;– Audits + willingness to say “we’d shut down before ChatControl.”&#xA;&#xA;All that said, the new Community Vouchers / SMPX / zkEVM plan raises big red flags from a sovereignty &amp; Bitcoin perspective, and there are some contradictions I want to put on the record.&#xA;&#xA;(1) “No shitcoins” vs SMPX + NFT + zkEVM&#xA;On Nostr/X you’ve repeatedly said “we’re not doing shitcoins” and answered “No” to “are you adding shitcoins to SimpleX.”&#xA;At the same time:&#xA;– Your own docs say Community Vouchers are implemented as a utility token on an EVM/zkEVM chain (SMPX, ERC-20 compatible).&#xA;– You’re issuing a non-transferable NFT on Ethereum mainnet as an access pass to the testnet.&#xA;– The token underlies names, server registry, payments and revenue sharing.&#xA;From a Bitcoin/sovereignty POV, this is an altcoin/token stack, regardless of pre-mine / speculation / fundraising.&#xA;&#xA;Q1. Why not just say plainly: “Yes, we’re building an EVM-based token layer for network economics, but we’re trying to keep it non-speculative”? Right now it feels like a semantic dodge.&#xA;&#xA;(2) “Not tradable” in the banner vs “maybe transferable” in the FAQ&#xA;Public copy and Nostr replies say:&#xA;– “Community Vouchers are not tradable, cannot be sold, expire in 6–12 months; no pre-mine; no public sale.”&#xA;But your own FAQ also says something like:&#xA;– Transfer may be possible with strict limits on number of transfers and holding time, enforced by smart contracts; details TBD.&#xA;So at the spec level:&#xA;– Vouchers = SMPX tokens on an EVM L2&#xA;– ERC-20 compatible&#xA;– Transferability not fully ruled out; parameters undecided.&#xA;&#xA;Q2. Can you clarify this honestly: are SMPX vouchers structurally untransferable, or are they transferable with restrictions? If the latter, why keep “not tradable” as your headline?&#xA;&#xA;Q3. What is your explicit stance on secondary / OTC markets for SMPX (even if contracts limit transfers)? Do you expect them, and what do you do when they appear?&#xA;&#xA;(3) Operator “trust evaluation”, identity, and regulatory capture&#xA;In the vouchers design you say:&#xA;– Operators who confirm identity and accept legally-binding terms get higher revenue share.&#xA;– “Trust evaluation” (uptime, longevity, etc.) feeds on-chain metrics.&#xA;– Funds are released from the contract only when capacity is proven, then split between operators and a SimpleX “network treasury”.&#xA;That means:&#xA;– The economically meaningful operators are the known, contract-signing ones.&#xA;– You are building a regulator-friendly class of service providers, with KYC-like characteristics and on-chain trust scores.&#xA;&#xA;Q4. How do you prevent this from sliding into full-blown regulatory capture (OFAC lists, EU ChatControl-style terms baked into the operator contract, etc.) once significant money flows through this system?&#xA;&#xA;Q5. Do you commit, in writing, to never making “known, contract-signing operators” a requirement for preset/default servers, even under EU pressure?&#xA;&#xA;(4) Altchain / L2 / stablecoin dependency&#xA;By design:&#xA;– SMPX lives on a zkEVM/L2.&#xA;– Purchases are done via cards/app stores or via crypto (Bitcoin/Monero/etc.), but the settlement &amp; accounting sits in the EVM universe.&#xA;– Names, server registry, and payments live in that same stack.&#xA;That imports:&#xA;– L2 governance politics,&#xA;– sequencer centralization,&#xA;– stablecoin issuer risk,&#xA;– and the full regulatory blast radius of Ethereum-land.&#xA;&#xA;Q6. What is your contingency plan if the chosen L2 starts censoring, gets captured, or dies? Does the network degrade gracefully (names/registry/payments decouple), or are you effectively locking these core functions into that ecosystem?&#xA;&#xA;Q7. Why was an EVM + token stack considered more acceptable than a Bitcoin + Cashu/Fedimint/Lightning approach, given that the latter could also provide unlinkable payments and revenue sharing without creating a new asset?&#xA;I understand the “trust in a mint” concern, but you’re now trusting:&#xA;– an L2 sequencer,&#xA;– complex smart contracts + upgrade keys,&#xA;– and an entire altchain governance process.&#xA;For some of us, that’s a bigger trust surface, not a smaller one.&#xA;&#xA;(5) “No identifiers” vs IP reality &amp; infra concentration&#xA;External analysis (maqp, PrivacyGuides, etc.) has pointed out:&#xA;– Default preset servers being concentrated on a small number of infra providers (e.g. Akamai + Flux).&#xA;– IP addresses still being long-lived identifiers unless people consciously route over Tor/VPN (which is not default).&#xA;Yet your marketing often leans very hard on “no identifiers” and suggests a stronger anonymity set than most people actually get in practice.&#xA;&#xA;Q8. Are you willing to update your public messaging to reflect the real IP/threat model more precisely (especially around preset servers + no default Tor), instead of letting people think SimpleX has “no identifiers” in the strong sense?&#xA;&#xA;Where I’m at:&#xA;From my perspective:&#xA;– SimpleX is still doing serious work on protocol &amp; privacy.&#xA;– Self-hosted SimpleX for 1:1 / small groups is still interesting as a tool.&#xA;– But the SMPX/zkEVM vouchers + KYC-tilted operator economics make it impossible to treat SimpleX as a sovereign-grade anchor for comms.&#xA;&#xA;What I am asking for:&#xA;– Clear acknowledgment that this is an altchain token + governance layer.&#xA;– Honest accounting of the regulatory and centralization risks.&#xA;– A concrete answer on why you chose this path over a Bitcoin/ecash-based model, beyond “smart contracts are convenient.”&#xA;&#xA;If you’re willing to engage on those points directly, it would go a long way for those of us who care about both privacy and monetary / governance sovereignty.</html></oembed>