{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","title":"zlogic wrote","author_name":"zlogic (npub1cw…pjhe0)","author_url":"https://nostr.now/npub1cwj2xrt5vun4q572lnvveukvwq9d2cwav9n4hexxvcsa7vr3vt8q9pjhe0","provider_name":"njump","provider_url":"https://nostr.now","html":"I definitely agree that a peaceful civilization would be better. It's just a question if that isn't even a contradiction in terms. Can you even have a peaceful civilization?\nThe Amish are a culture a people but I don't know if you could call it a civilization. Same with the other groups you mentioned afaik.\n\n\"Civilization is a complex, large-scale society defined by advanced urban development, social stratification, specialized labor, and symbolic communication systems like writing.\"\n\nAre there any pacifist groups that have ever actually met the definition of a civilization? And if you separate pragmatism from idealism then does that mean a pacifist could be violent?"}