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  <title>Nostr notes by Talia Ringer</title>
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    <name>Talia Ringer</name>
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      <title type="html">In class yesterday I accidentally said &amp;#34;closeted transer&amp;#34; ...</title>
    
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      In class yesterday I accidentally said &amp;#34;closeted transer&amp;#34; instead of &amp;#34;transitive closure&amp;#34; so there&amp;#39;s that
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    <updated>2026-10-10T03:26:09Z</updated>
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    <id>https://nostr.now/nevent1qqsqelnj7a5xg2akc5l5ag3t30rk56t9mpu4tmn0z2088avvv7ppe9qzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugslffs0</id>
    
      <title type="html">What a time to teach an undergrad class on how to use a proof ...</title>
    
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      What a time to teach an undergrad class on how to use a proof assistant. What a time to be in this field. What a time&lt;br/&gt; &lt;img src=&#34;https://media.mathstodon.xyz/media_attachments/files/117/169/207/079/692/714/original/777b1f9a6cc10b14.jpeg&#34;&gt; &lt;br/&gt;
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    <updated>2026-08-27T19:51:08Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Though you are probably making it into a conflict now...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqs9yxp5kng37zql8qdsz30xd0ch63lf0hcvyzfmgyfa54yu9vxnrngatx9hr&#39;&gt;nevent1q…x9hr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Though you are probably making it into a conflict now...
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    <updated>2026-07-13T15:44:01Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">talk to the PC chair probably, IDK if that is a conflict, I know ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsv7uxxuvpff4vlfk2kfuxgvr66p6xfjjfjtptvwhguex0g5ugewncc6gtdn&#39;&gt;nevent1q…gtdn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;talk to the PC chair probably, IDK if that is a conflict, I know it is not against policy to post links to preprints of papers to share research findings unless you say where you submitted it to
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    <updated>2026-07-13T15:43:46Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Some of my awesome Ph.D. students and collaborators helped me ...</title>
    
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      Some of my awesome Ph.D. students and collaborators helped me finally understand what on earth I was doing in my Ph.D. thesis work in a way that is precise and generalizable. Like, they turned my vibes into a formalization. Just so excited about this&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://trey3p.github.io/papers/prt.pdf&#34;&gt;https://trey3p.github.io/papers/prt.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
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    <updated>2026-07-13T15:30:56Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Need a running example for my NSF CAREER. Would appreciate some ...</title>
    
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      Need a running example for my NSF CAREER. Would appreciate some help since I suck at examples, but having one would make my proposal way better.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It should be a verification or formal math project (described at a very high level, like &amp;#34;suppose we are verifying a compiler from our own language to CompCert CLight&amp;#34; or whatever) with the following (IME very common) properties:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. It is well-motivated and based on actual proof developments I can cite.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2.I can simplify it dramatically when discussing it in the proposal for exemplary purposes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3. The programs, definitions, and theorem statements are not all known in advance---it makes sense for the proof engineer to figure those things out as they go.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;4. It depends on a custom library and/or exists in a specific domain that uses a lot of custom definitions and custom styles (but not a monorepo like mathlib).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;5. It is something that it would make sense to collaborate on with a sizable group of collaborators, who may be opinionated about questions of proof engineering best practices, or about best practices specific to that domain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please let me know if you have ideas. Can be in any proof assistant language.
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    <updated>2026-06-10T17:59:01Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">the one I shared is a gift article since I am a subscriber, ...</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsgqf4jt6526yc3739jx9l06wekr9qfmdkdlfzmwymm9henwrj3ljshl6lg9&#39;&gt;nevent1q…6lg9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;the one I shared is a gift article since I am a subscriber, should also be free
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    <updated>2026-06-09T12:06:25Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Neat to see this article come out as I&amp;#39;m navigating fears of ...</title>
    
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      Neat to see this article come out as I&amp;#39;m navigating fears of this in the Agda community&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/08/science/ai-scoop-young-mathematicians.html?unlocked_article_code=1.olA.dJte.wZXzslO706sU&amp;amp;smid=url-share&#34;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/08/science/ai-scoop-young-mathematicians.html?unlocked_article_code=1.olA.dJte.wZXzslO706sU&amp;amp;smid=url-share&lt;/a&gt;
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    <updated>2026-06-09T00:02:29Z</updated>
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  <entry>
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      <title type="html">it&amp;#39;s very modern stuff</title>
    
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqsp8encl0runj3c42ankm77z6dxkzjx7xjzyv0qcm3uu6vqrphlc2g7l0r2a&#39;&gt;nevent1q…0r2a&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;it&amp;#39;s very modern stuff
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:38:58Z</updated>
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      <title>Nostr event nevent1qqsp8encl0runj3c42ankm77z6dxkzjx7xjzyv0qcm3uu6vqrphlc2gzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugvryg6f</title>
    
    <link rel="alternate" href="https://nostr.now/nevent1qqsp8encl0runj3c42ankm77z6dxkzjx7xjzyv0qcm3uu6vqrphlc2gzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugvryg6f" />
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqs2f9fxwxzn7v7ev4jdwaas53x9svazzpjmyvu9khesectuecmst3g67wjy8&#39;&gt;nevent1q…wjy8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/avigad/Papers/formal_system_for_euclids_elements.pdf&#34;&gt;https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/avigad/Papers/formal_system_for_euclids_elements.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:37:22Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Hilbert seems to strike an unhappy medium. E is meant to mirror ...</title>
    
    <link rel="alternate" href="https://nostr.now/nevent1qqsp8m0qahgd5u7vprhanlgs79c4favmrnewa8c4wv44xaarzrmn4pgzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncuggmezdc" />
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqs9ptq5aw0m2rde7lh45dhccw4chup0lfrjgk23k232y8h6yaeghzgnd5j7p&#39;&gt;nevent1q…5j7p&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hilbert seems to strike an unhappy medium. E is meant to mirror Euclid&amp;#39;s proofs very closely, so usability should be at the forefront, but the axiom set is quite large (thankfully the metatheory is well understood though). The student prototype however used a small DTT kernel, then some internal kernel axioms on top of that to model E
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:27:10Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Tarski actually has a lot of appeal as a kernel too IMO (really ...</title>
    
    <link rel="alternate" href="https://nostr.now/nevent1qqs9ptq5aw0m2rde7lh45dhccw4chup0lfrjgk23k232y8h6yaeghzgzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugltr6sd" />
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqswtl98ar3pmahqhx936nm7gwn5q5zpasezfmser64rhyjp049m29glh0cfs&#39;&gt;nevent1q…0cfs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tarski actually has a lot of appeal as a kernel too IMO (really small axiom set, decidable proof search) but students felt the axiom set was so, so low-level that it was too hard to build the infrastructure needed to have good usability on top of that
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:24:18Z</updated>
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    <id>https://nostr.now/nevent1qqswtl98ar3pmahqhx936nm7gwn5q5zpasezfmser64rhyjp049m29gzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugq86y25</id>
    
      <title type="html">The work these students did in two weeks of class was genuinely ...</title>
    
    <link rel="alternate" href="https://nostr.now/nevent1qqswtl98ar3pmahqhx936nm7gwn5q5zpasezfmser64rhyjp049m29gzyzagstvw4eqr0x7v49cfu3aw227yd6dqg8dnf3m2v4zcfjxelncugq86y25" />
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      In reply to &lt;a href=&#39;/nevent1qqs0fcpvejq7u3qxd0t2y543suarhsve2aenrj9eu4nu2sx0atr8w5gq0ejmx&#39;&gt;nevent1q…ejmx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;_________________________&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The work these students did in two weeks of class was genuinely impressive. Can&amp;#39;t wait to see what our proof assistant is like in the end
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:22:24Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">The three different Euclidean geometric kernel prototypes are ...</title>
    
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      The three different Euclidean geometric kernel prototypes are done. Now it is time for the class to converge on one foundations and write our final kernel. It&amp;#39;s looking like E over Tarski and Hilbert. But jury is still out on TT vs. logic, and on LCF vs. de Bruijn
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    <updated>2026-02-12T01:21:20Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">Hey guys. Our beautiful daughter Sarah Rose El-Kebir was in a ...</title>
    
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      Hey guys. Our beautiful daughter Sarah Rose El-Kebir was in a hurry to get out and did not want to wait five more weeks. So she entered the world on Friday morning. She&amp;#39;s doing well and I&amp;#39;m doing well. She&amp;#39;s small and needs a bit of extra help, so I&amp;#39;m in and out of the NICU for now. But she&amp;#39;s very strong and she&amp;#39;s doing great in there. Mohammed and I are very in love with her. Feel free to DM for cute baby pics if we know each other personally.
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    <updated>2024-10-06T13:24:36Z</updated>
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      <title type="html">What are some domain-specific program logics people know about? ...</title>
    
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      What are some domain-specific program logics people know about? Particularly interested in domains where it&amp;#39;s not obvious that the thing being reasoned about is a &amp;#34;program,&amp;#34; but it can in fact be viewed as such, and so a logic can be built around it.
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    <updated>2024-09-15T17:08:53Z</updated>
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