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there's an answer to this, but woke-leaning types aren't ...

2026-09-17T21:27:09Z

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there's an answer to this, but woke-leaning types aren't going to like it. https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linus-behavior-and-kernel-development-community (not making a value judgement for or against cocs, but I am saying that they allow for corpo entryism, particularly when familial and social intrigues can be weaponized against you, as happened with patricia torvalds and linus)

there's no way he actually said this 💀

2026-08-25T03:04:32Z

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there's no way he actually said this 💀

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2026-07-06T00:33:36Z

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so called "american cockroaches" are just an allegory for ...

2026-07-06T00:32:04Z

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so called "american cockroaches" are just an allegory for americans in general, the longer you engage with them the more you realize this

Artdink huh? Might have to give it a whirl

2025-12-17T02:39:24Z

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Artdink huh? Might have to give it a whirl

I think the earlier you go the fuzzier the concept gets and the ...

2025-12-05T05:28:01Z

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I think the earlier you go the fuzzier the concept gets and the more it just breaks down into the general morass of macro languages/compatibility layers/pcode runtimes. Like does Framework count as an overlay OS? UCSD Pascal chainloaded from DOS? MacMINIX? MachTen? lol.

I would also consider inferno, chrysalisp, medley interlisp, gnu ...

2025-12-05T05:16:33Z

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I would also consider inferno, chrysalisp, medley interlisp, gnu emacs, self, squeak, etc. to be valid foss entrants in this category of "overlay os" to a greater or lesser extent

boomers

2025-12-02T22:23:14Z

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boomers

bro also tried finding a nonwhite cis femcel, found one and got ...

2025-11-30T05:02:57Z

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bro also tried finding a nonwhite cis femcel, found one and got with her for a while (while being aware she was underage), bounced off after her being a femcel made him rage, faked his death simultaneous the pittsburgh synagogue shooting, came back to try fucking with me in 2019, and finally got stranded in the philippines in 2020 around the time the covid lockdowns happened, got repatriated back to the states, and forced into his worst nightmare of an arranged marriage to a white woman. hope all the internet tradcath halfheartedly sedevacantist east la larping was worth it blud

a fed tried grooming me into doing it once in order to live ...

2025-11-30T04:52:21Z

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a fed tried grooming me into doing it once in order to live vicariously thru me, it didn't end well for him

what was the 2017 near miss? I actually saw fedi first all the ...

2025-11-30T01:56:25Z

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what was the 2017 near miss? I actually saw fedi first all the way back in 2015 (qvitter.se or something along those lines) but it was all terminally boring leftists so I couldn't be bothered

gotcha. basically on the cusp of modern fedi then, I joined in ...

2025-11-30T01:29:50Z

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gotcha. basically on the cusp of modern fedi then, I joined in the middle era before gab/spinster/kfcc/poast cultural changes but after mastodon and after the first set of pleroma instances, also when misskey just started federating (I can say in confidence I was probably one of the first 50 people outside japan to use it)

when did you join? before/after poast made a huge difference, ...

2025-11-30T01:26:54Z

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when did you join? before/after poast made a *huge* difference, as did before/after the combo of kfcc and spinster

it's not your view, but it is certainly mine.

2025-11-29T05:35:03Z

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it's not your view, but it is certainly mine.

I think "institutes" is almost too strong of a word here, ...

2025-11-29T05:29:24Z

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I think "institutes" is almost too strong of a word here, it's a choice but only in the most technical sense, given both full foreknowledge of the course of events as well as being compelled by omnibenevolence to seek out the resolving of the ultimate good at a defined point in time and space, as typified in the incarnation

replace karma with providence, and that's the ultimate view I ...

2025-11-29T05:24:05Z

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replace karma with providence, and that's the ultimate view I have of the christian conception of the course of the world

reddit as a modern day usenet is basically in the category of ...

2025-11-28T23:08:46Z

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reddit as a modern day usenet is basically in the category of "necessary evil", imageboards can be all over the place, but when you posted "little autism websites" my mind didn't immediately jump to social networks at all, but small websites which soothe your personal brand of autism in some degree

I know 😇 I was insinuating that collecting little autism ...

2025-11-28T23:05:21Z

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I know 😇 I was insinuating that collecting little autism websites is a proper and optimal way of using the web

which one? do you collect them?

2025-11-28T22:55:40Z

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which one? do you collect them?

first off, remap your buttons to zxc for abc. second, make sure ...

2025-11-27T02:32:53Z

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first off, remap your buttons to zxc for abc. second, make sure (if you're on a laptop keyboard) that you're using full size buttons to do your inputs (on my acer I used l.,/ for this purpose). third, there is a delay between when pieces appear in the next queue and when they drop. use this to your advantage to buffer both movements and rotations.

gnosticism is something between ancient paganism and modern ...

2025-11-27T02:32:10Z

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gnosticism is something between ancient paganism and modern protestantism in terms of how it approaches itself, but as long as you're being genuine in the beliefs you hold and not deluding yourself about the consequences of severing apostolic succession, I don't see a major problem with it

I don't hold the belief that Orthodoxy has an exclusive claim ...

2025-11-27T02:29:23Z

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I don't hold the belief that Orthodoxy has an exclusive claim to that distinction, but it certainly has one of the strongest claims to it

what is your keyboard and what bindings are you using?

2025-11-27T02:28:28Z

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what is your keyboard and what bindings are you using?

https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/christianity-based-paganism/ luke ...

2025-11-27T02:22:45Z

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https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/christianity-based-paganism/ luke smith, for all of his inherent being luke smith, is 100% correct in his angle of attack on the vast majority of neopagan constructions existing today

it's neopagan protestantism, the golden bough and its ...

2025-11-27T02:19:07Z

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it's neopagan protestantism, the golden bough and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

well, the larp is certainly there

2025-11-27T01:37:00Z

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well, the larp is certainly there

Packard Bell is actually owned by Acer these days, same with ...

2025-11-26T22:29:25Z

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Packard Bell is actually owned by Acer these days, same with Gateway and (the no longer being used) eMachines

deeply regrettable

2025-11-26T22:26:35Z

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deeply regrettable

which brand?

2025-11-26T22:23:00Z

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which brand?

instant doubling of the number of shmups on n64 (not counting ...

2025-11-25T16:27:09Z

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instant doubling of the number of shmups on n64 (not counting dezaemon)

The proper comparison would be another vendor doing unified ...

2025-11-25T04:37:59Z

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The proper comparison would be another vendor doing unified memory, Apple will probably come out favorably in that context (now what Apple really *does* nickel and dime you on is SSDs)

Another day, another gray hair. Quite the thing to have at 26 ...

2025-11-25T01:39:44Z

Another day, another gray hair. Quite the thing to have at 26 years old.

>djvu Actually peak

2025-11-24T23:51:16Z

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>djvu
Actually peak

here's a question for the gentiles in the audience: how much ...

2025-11-23T01:55:34Z

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here's a question for the gentiles in the audience: how much dna entitles one to having a jewish soul, or for that matter, does dna have any impact on the existence of the jewish soul? vote now on your phones!!

Well let me put it this way, can you read the decision to build a ...

2025-11-22T01:55:07Z

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Well let me put it this way, can you read the decision to build a "computing utility" as anything but political? General Electric alongside Bell Labs and MIT had a vested interest in transposing power structures from the physical world by way of analogy and things like the hierarchical file system worked were a key part of that. Modern implementers continue in a state where they not only ignore the implicit politics of their actions due to conceptual illiteracy, but PERPETUATE such illiteracy intentionally in the name of pretending that this is the best of all possible worlds and nobody has a hope or prayer of doing better.

Oh I was being dead serious, if Dennis and Van Horn had ...

2025-11-22T01:45:59Z

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Oh I was being dead serious, if Dennis and Van Horn had discovered capabilities just a few years earlier than they actually did, the computing world would look *very* different.

"obsession with trees instead of graphs" something ...

2025-11-22T01:41:00Z

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"obsession with trees instead of graphs" something something models predispose implementation, once multics debuted the idea of the hierarchical filesystem it was only a matter of time before the implications of that decision spilled out to other areas too (the past half century and a bit of computing orthodoxy really being highly elaborated and selective multics fanfiction)

if you don't already know exactly what you're going to be ...

2025-11-21T18:06:08Z

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if you don't already know exactly what you're going to be using emacs for going in, you have no business using emacs.

ask the same of todd and skyrim

2025-11-18T04:32:24Z

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ask the same of todd and skyrim

money printing machine

2025-11-18T04:25:12Z

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money printing machine

Not just treating AI as divine, but consorting with AI at all. I ...

2025-11-18T01:12:13Z

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Not just treating AI as divine, but consorting with AI at all. I made a whole schizopost about this a week or two back.

for mine it's YT Shorts

2025-11-17T23:11:55Z

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for mine it's YT Shorts

that's gonna be the 30s for my money

2025-11-15T23:20:49Z

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that's gonna be the 30s for my money

Time to get with the program ...

2025-11-15T22:17:21Z

Time to get with the program

depends on the system, x68000 for example is shockingly well ...

2025-11-14T22:03:19Z

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depends on the system, x68000 for example is shockingly well preserved in this regard but pc9801 trying to find almost anything besides multipaint is an exercise in futility

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2025-11-14T22:00:36Z

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https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/10/21/list-of-vintage-japanese-pixel-dot-art-software/ and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44081550 also have a lot of good pointers if you know what you're looking for going in

I don't know exactly what pixeling tool Falcom used at the ...

2025-11-14T21:56:38Z

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I don't know exactly what pixeling tool Falcom used at the time, whether it was custom or off the shelf, but I can make a reasonable guess that it was something like Multi Paint System and had a similar featureset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIdFor2WOnw

the werewolf ends up coming out and nobody is prepared for it

2025-11-12T00:34:03Z

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the werewolf ends up coming out and nobody is prepared for it

stims are way better except for the unfortunate side effect that ...

2025-11-12T00:30:28Z

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stims are way better except for the unfortunate side effect that at high enough doses I can get too Based(tm)

it is what it is, marijuana just makes me paranoid, nauseated, ...

2025-11-12T00:29:26Z

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it is what it is, marijuana just makes me paranoid, nauseated, and glued to the couch

not for me it doesn't

2025-11-12T00:28:13Z

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not for me it doesn't

at least it's not an allium in that event

2025-11-12T00:27:08Z

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at least it's not an allium in that event

FreeBSD if you want ersatz-Linux, NetBSD if you want the ...

2025-11-11T22:12:21Z

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FreeBSD if you want ersatz-Linux, NetBSD if you want the legitimate continuation of CSRG BSD, OpenBSD if you want a modern day SunOS 4.x with security autism, Dragonfly BSD if you're a jaded former Amiga user with HPC interests, macOS if you're too normal to understand what any of these mean.

Got reminded of some deeply cursed and unfortunate parts of my ...

2025-11-11T22:05:38Z

Got reminded of some deeply cursed and unfortunate parts of my personal history, ask me anything to take my mind off of it

here's a better view from the back ...

2025-11-09T04:10:50Z

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here's a better view from the back

First snow of the season ...

2025-11-09T04:04:49Z

First snow of the season

never heard of nu, what's the pitch?

2025-11-07T01:44:14Z

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never heard of nu, what's the pitch?

something which extends on the capabilities of things like ddt on ...

2025-11-07T01:41:39Z

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something which extends on the capabilities of things like ddt on its, the dynamic listener on (mit-derived) lisp machines, and the default shell in tops-20, the unix model is definitely a neat local maximum especially if your entire workflow is oriented around streams of text but there are lots of different paths which haven't been explored nearly enough to try making something different (and potentially better, relative usecase).

zsh is cool, definitely super featureful, but not really what ...

2025-11-07T01:38:43Z

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zsh is cool, definitely super featureful, but not really what I'm looking for in a shell (of course, to get what I'm *really* looking for in a shell, I'd have to get out of the unix conceptual space entirely)

bash is lowest common denominator gnuslop cloning the canonical ...

2025-11-07T01:36:12Z

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bash is lowest common denominator gnuslop cloning the canonical late 70s unix shell, even within bell, ksh93 (on unix) and rc (on plan 9) are much better.

turns out powershell is a very considered and meticulous design, ...

2025-11-07T01:20:46Z

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turns out powershell is a very considered and meticulous design, who would have thought

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2025-03-26T01:46:33Z

"HP fans DNI" :blobcatghostdead:

absolutely not beating the software communist allegations

2025-03-25T09:49:48Z

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absolutely not beating the software communist allegations

the economics of it were actually bad enough that it forced ...

2025-02-16T01:30:07Z

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the economics of it were actually bad enough that it forced rapprochement with the ussr and their space program (hence apollo-soyuz and the later shuttle-mir missions), you don't go thru all that financial trouble and engineering wizardry just to fake something that could be easily disproven by your biggest rival

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2025-02-16T01:12:36Z

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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyP9WfpvWcmbAblPKyNv9uW_TpjeSytol here you go :) there's oodles of non midori stuff on the channel as well but these are the ones that are immediately relevant to your question

it's ok, we all have our little eccentricities~ did you see ...

2025-02-16T00:34:54Z

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it's ok, we all have our little eccentricities~
did you see the new drop of internal ms stuff about midori btw? walkingcat has been going above and beyond the last few months

famous among a certain clique of extremely online lisp ...

2025-02-16T00:32:51Z

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famous among a certain clique of extremely online lisp enthusiasts, at least :)

there's a certain irony in this statement considering who ...

2025-02-16T00:18:39Z

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there's a certain irony in this statement considering who you're replying to lol

how do kawa and chez compare for performance?

2025-02-15T23:25:30Z

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how do kawa and chez compare for performance?

no, it's proprietary software that's the problem

2025-01-12T21:31:22Z

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no, it's proprietary software that's the problem

Game mechanics can be subject to design patents in both Japan and ...

2024-09-19T20:30:58Z

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Game mechanics can be subject to design patents in both Japan and the US and that is what is meant by this being a patent suit

Canada customs and border patrol decided to give me the full ...

2024-09-17T20:07:51Z

Canada customs and border patrol decided to give me the full treatment, a bit of an odd little situation but I'm out of the woods now

if documentation is your complaint, that's out of the frying ...

2024-09-16T01:58:10Z

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if documentation is your complaint, that's out of the frying pan and into the fire

my thought is that the "bots" in past years were actually ...

2024-09-10T01:15:41Z

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my thought is that the "bots" in past years were actually humans who by various means adopted bot like mannerisms but since the public release of chatgpt are actually just llms

I would not say "like" AIs, but there's definitely ...

2024-09-09T23:11:23Z

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I would not say "like" AIs, but there's definitely some convergence going on in a lot of cases using different means to obtain the same basic kinds of end results (different neurotypes also influence this, but that's another discussion for another day)

a related remark from one of my friends off site "my hot (?) ...

2024-09-09T22:55:58Z

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a related remark from one of my friends off site

"my hot (?) take is that artistic output is more a product of introjection and bricolage than we'd want to admit. it's 1% inspiration filtered through a lifetime of learning "what should go where" from practice, (sometimes) professional training, and just existing in the world. and creation is a process of smearing together some original spark, what we like from other works and want to incorporate, and what we know should be present into a coherent work."

note to self ...

2024-09-09T20:21:55Z

note to self

I wouldn't even say most detransitioners are super vocal, ...

2024-09-08T07:38:48Z

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I wouldn't even say most detransitioners are super vocal, just a minority of them are and they're usually the ones being used for TERF/grifter narratives and oftentimes getting paid under the table to share their stories, whether real, embellished, or just plain false.

Split personalities? Gender dysphoria isn't DID and the two ...

2024-09-08T07:25:04Z

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Split personalities? Gender dysphoria isn't DID and the two co-occur irregularly at best.

Pushing what issue back? To draw an analogy, do you believe in ...

2024-09-08T07:18:14Z

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Pushing what issue back? To draw an analogy, do you believe in the utility and efficacy of medication for ADHD?

this was on discord but I very much wouldn't be surprised if ...

2024-09-07T19:29:03Z

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this was on discord but I very much wouldn't be surprised if the girl saying these things about me was low-key a redditor

tfw actually been called a nazi tgirl catgirl programmer by ...

2024-09-07T19:24:10Z

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tfw actually been called a nazi tgirl catgirl programmer by extremely online chapo breadtube leftists before

ok but is meeper a nazi tgirl catgirl programmer? didn't ...

2024-09-07T19:18:09Z

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ok but is meeper a nazi tgirl catgirl programmer? didn't think so.

These are napkin estimates based on one 27oz box of whole wheat ...

2024-09-07T02:37:19Z

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These are napkin estimates based on one 27oz box of whole wheat Goldfish crackers, assuming I eat between 1/3 and 1/2 of a box a day (usually closer to 1/2). I think realistically I'm closer to 2000 calories a day a lot of the time, and that's not including the sporadic not-Goldfish meals when they happen, but still a serious cause for concern imo.

Noticed I was feeling worse than usual last two days, decided to ...

2024-09-07T01:16:26Z

Noticed I was feeling worse than usual last two days, decided to tally what an "average" caloric intake/day is, ended up at 1500. How tf.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/557 this one. your ...

2024-08-30T19:42:09Z

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https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/557 this one. your steam games all work fine?

the issue I'm referring to is a cross distro one + I actually ...

2024-08-30T19:40:18Z

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the issue I'm referring to is a cross distro one + I actually like fedora

honestly if I do over my fedora install I'm definitely going ...

2024-08-30T19:38:33Z

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honestly if I do over my fedora install I'm definitely going to go for xfs over btrfs, the only concern I really have is compatibility with wine and proton due to the... what was it... 64-bit inodes thing?

most German is easily gmx

2024-08-23T15:08:46Z

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most German is easily gmx

"All the important moving parts" means stuff like Proton, ...

2024-08-14T17:39:18Z

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"All the important moving parts" means stuff like Proton, gamescope, Mesa, etc. All of these things can be packaged by distros like Trisquel and the only reason they aren't (if they aren't) is lack of interest on the part of the package maintainers.

All the important moving parts are FOSS and there are always ...

2024-08-14T17:20:10Z

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All the important moving parts are FOSS and there are always escape routes if major vendors (e.g. Valve) start acting up, I have zero doubt things will be fine for the foreseeable future.

true! and be interesting/novel about it

2024-08-06T16:05:27Z

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true! and be interesting/novel about it

No, it's intended as a swipe at (alternately) the "I ...

2024-08-06T16:03:36Z

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No, it's intended as a swipe at (alternately) the "I Fucking Love Science" guys and the ones who will out of pocket show you things like "Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told"

the thing I usually see people do is build their core system from ...

2024-08-06T13:53:01Z

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the thing I usually see people do is build their core system from scratch and then fill in the gaps with things like pkgsrc and nix, or (as you correctly noted) use gentoo which is basically lfs but with the packaging busywork automated

I have known several LFS users before, it's not even super ...

2024-08-06T13:42:46Z

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I have known several LFS users before, it's not even super uncommon if you know where to look

are they?

2024-08-03T00:58:26Z

In reply to nevent1q…x7cg
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are they?

>"ok, I'm going to put on white girl music" ...

2024-08-03T00:03:43Z

>"ok, I'm going to put on white girl music"
>it's breakcore

yeah and no Vulkan is a huge deal (means no Proton and DXVK among ...

2024-08-01T13:23:25Z

In reply to nevent1q…d2gw
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yeah and no Vulkan is a huge deal (means no Proton and DXVK among other things), for gaming, you're much better served getting a card from Intel or AMD

well by Nouveau standards, usually Maxwell era cards (your 750s ...

2024-08-01T13:20:30Z

In reply to nevent1q…m3a5
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well by Nouveau standards, usually Maxwell era cards (your 750s and such), no Vulkan but OpenGL is passable with manual reclocking, maybe 70-80% performance of the proprietary driver

that or they're super autists who use certain "well ...

2024-08-01T12:37:04Z

In reply to nevent1q…w487
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that or they're super autists who use certain "well supported" older cards with reclocking scripts and never leave the confines of the opengl ecosystem