Nostr notes by 𝓼𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓹𝓪𝓽𝓱【ツ】☮(📍🇬🇧)

using the same lenovo yoga since 2019 and it still works like a ...

2026-10-28T20:50:13Z

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using the same lenovo yoga since 2019 and it still works like a charme 🙂

having loads of ppl think they solved it by joining a big corrupt ...

2026-10-05T17:43:29Z

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having loads of ppl think they solved it by joining a big corrupt union and taking their brainwashing because somebody they trusted told them to unionize but forgot to say "not like that" can be counter productive, because now those that could join a more modern version of unionizing because they were looking are now unavailable for those trying new ways because they got trapped in the old corrupt ways

hmm... i feel advise to join a union or start one might just ...

2026-10-05T17:41:52Z

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hmm...

i feel advise to join a union or start one might just naively send ppl into the claws of big corrupt unions or start unions in the same failed ways.

i definitely agree with the talking to others part and solidarity and also i think mutual aid and stuff like commons stewardship worker coops etc... are great, but a new term and links to resources of how modern "unionizing" should look like in 2026 and onwards would be more helpful.

How do i do that without either ending up with a too small union ...

2026-10-05T16:42:13Z

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How do i do that without either ending up with a too small union or with one where the board or whoever "leads" is starts to not really act in the best interest of union members?

i am all for it. lets do it quickly. where do i sign up? 🙂

2026-10-04T15:48:43Z

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i am all for it.
lets do it quickly.
where do i sign up? 🙂

Sometimes I feel a bit sad that some people are really unable to ...

2026-09-14T15:48:58Z

Sometimes I feel a bit sad that some people are really unable to have an intellectual discussion, because they cant really express their views and instead get all emotional, but to avoid exposing that they instead express their emotions in all sorts of weird and artistic ways, but it also doesnt contribute anything constructive and just make a bad situation worse. Opportunity to inspire and maybe find additional allies gets destroyed. ...🤷‍♀️

Too bad.

current state of affairs ...

2026-09-12T21:32:38Z

current state of affairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oevePDpIDfw

and the "whole new arsenal the rich could use against labour ...

2026-09-05T01:04:19Z

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and the "whole new arsenal the rich could use against labour and the people" essentialy boil down to money printing 😁

...all the other arsenal are just sexond order effects from that which change over time based on what works and vibes...but the reason billiinaire class exists is NOT because they earn all the revenue, but because they print the money via VCs and myriads of other financial instrument architecture labels 🤷‍♀️ and then
... 🏠🤑⬆️

HERE he says it after telling what was good. He says: "But ...

2026-09-05T01:00:38Z

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HERE he says it after telling what was good.

He says: "But then, in the 1970s, ....."

Its August 15th 1971 - the the only shock it needed, but otherwise accurate observation.

https://youtu.be/_z27ArNDzLA?t=794&si=HUaK_ft1UDsnqTiO

i watched this and i agree with the problem he describes anout ...

2026-09-05T00:50:49Z

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i watched this and i agree with the problem he describes anout "the left" and how they turn right sometimes or more elitist when they come in touch with power.

i get the feeling he just ascribes it to how ppl are or that it is because its so nice around power... but the mechanics are simple. its called bribing and its done woth printed money.

join us and you benefit from wealth 🙂

https://youtu.be/_z27ArNDzLA?si=3vdOiRWl1QBewKbO

the same banks finance both sides of wars, even world wars... and ...

2026-09-05T00:47:01Z

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the same banks finance both sides of wars, even world wars...

and its not different this time around.

its the rich printing money to fight their wars and the poor going to war if it comes to it.

its billionaires printing money and paying us with it to tell us what to do.

its not left vs right.

its authoritarian elitists vs egalitarian anti-authoritarians

THATs the real divide.

central banking system is as authoritarian as it gets

i dont have a money fetish - its just the rules of the game and ...

2026-09-05T00:41:50Z

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i dont have a money fetish - its just the rules of the game and ignoring it cant fix the problem.

in this regard, sovient union and capitalist america are the same thing, not different systems, even china.. same shit. They have different stories ansld vibes, because their elites have different fetishes and flavours and branding ...just like in wrestling good and bad guys have different brandings, nut its the same system. central banking

mainly because enormous wealth, especially in means of ...

2026-09-04T23:58:52Z

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mainly because enormous wealth, especially in means of production, causes enormous costs and they suck your wealth dry fast unless you habe revenue ... billionaires dont, so instead they print money and global debt expands ..
...if they cant get that anymore they all go bankrupt insanely fast ...but until the ppl organize to make supply chains for everything, its not feasible and once we do, billionaires will print komey to attack or buy

anywau, checked also a few other videos, but he seems stuck in ...

2026-09-04T23:52:31Z

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anywau, checked also a few other videos, but he seems stuck in that frame that its normal that wealthy folks get automatically more wealthy over time because their wealth attracts more wealth... and thus the government has to counter balance it (which it mysteriously never does) .. the whole premise is unquestioned, e.g. why is it that "enormous wealth makes you richer over time" ... its because of money printing 🙂. stop it ends the rich

why should everyone be forced ro own a house and make that their ...

2026-09-04T23:34:41Z

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why should everyone be forced ro own a house and make that their part time or full time business? there are many ways how people can earn income and the ways in which ppl so it have only gotten more diverse over time.

its also not that housing is the only thing that becomes unafordable - its many things because its a systemic problem, so lets just expand the solution of ppl organizing to everything maybe and then use division of labour?

sorry for this long thread, but trying to respond to one video i ...

2026-09-04T23:32:32Z

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sorry for this long thread, but trying to respond to one video i picked from your recommendation.

towards the end he says: "phase out rental housing", but that is how i live and want to live. i am a perpetual nomad living minimally above the povert line and being able to change houses and travel is also quality of life rather than being locked in a small apartment for life.

the thing is, rent doesnt have to be expensive

...but that wont be enough, because billionaires can attack ...

2026-09-04T23:27:45Z

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...but that wont be enough, because billionaires can attack economically in all kinds of ways and undermine the ppl trying to organize.

just like you can pay for and deploy tactics to bust unions you can so so by disrupting ppl organizing - even if it costs you a fortune - as long as you have a money printer, everyone else pays for your moves via inflation, not you, so billionaire scant go bust and attack forever

the question would be - why isnt it happening now even though ...

2026-09-04T23:26:01Z

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the question would be - why isnt it happening now even though governments could in the past and it sounds like a good idea?

maybe because the rich having a money printer already capture all politics and proposals and distort them until it serves them?

the main thing he says is when zooming out and i agree with it is: ppl have to organize, take on ownership and consciously work with others - regardless of what industry/business. YES 🙂

Essentially, he goes on to recommend the government should be ...

2026-09-04T23:23:51Z

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Essentially, he goes on to recommend the government should be able to print money and buy housing directly and then give it to the coop members to run it and then destroy that printed money once the coop members paid it back over time in installlments.

this hopefully will only have coops run by members who will be able to eventually pay it back and of course not by rich folks who will create coops to infiltrate this process somehow

So the guy in the video says the solution to get coop housing ...

2026-09-04T23:21:24Z

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So the guy in the video says the solution to get coop housing started everywhere at massive scale is the govenrment pays for it and get paid back later over time.

He then said in the 1980s and before the government had momey for infrastructure and awesome stuff, but now not anymore...

he also recommends "garrys economics" a lot, but while the guy sees the problem, his "tax the rich" solution is naive and wont fix it when they can print

...because money printer. the billionaire class prints ever more ...

2026-09-04T23:08:02Z

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...because money printer.
the billionaire class prints ever more money and puts it into their nonsense ideas that justify the printing formally and then hire people. also those with good proper leftist values to work for that money, but then the products/services are not getting bought, but instead those now rich folks (because thats how those employees are close to the money printer) want to save/invest/buy houses... because what else?

...care and want to earn some money too in this rough unfair ...

2026-09-04T23:06:14Z

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...care and want to earn some money too in this rough unfair world we are living in, will find a way to provide houses to those with the bjying power, who might very well be folks with good values who vote left and yadda yadda, but the majority of house prices and almost angthing these days is because pl try to store their wealth somewhere and in return making it unaffordable for the majority of ppl who try to get by.

...why is that?

...but, WHY isnt that the vast majority of how things work today ...

2026-09-04T23:04:17Z

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...but, WHY isnt that the vast majority of how things work today already? why do ppl live as tenants and pay fortunes and face "oppressive landlords" ... i do think the reason is some folks have ENDLESS money and they want to secure their wealth and "store" it somewhere because they know cash wont hold value, so they put enormous buying pressure on everything, especially housing and where money is to be made, at least those who dont....

so am half way in and yes, he proposes a cooperative to own and ...

2026-09-04T23:01:33Z

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so am half way in and yes, he proposes a cooperative to own and manage the house, thus tenants are also cooperative members and thus their landlords. ...this model and the various flavours are great and i am all for it. in fact i have many friends who have lived and are living in that kind of arrangement. i have lived like that myself for some time.

This is imho what i meant and understood by ppl have to organize and take ownership too

found the channel and it all looks like entertaining titles and ...

2026-09-04T22:46:05Z

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found the channel and it all looks like entertaining titles and probably fun to listen to, but none of the topics seem like super novel as if i werent familiar with them.

i'm not saying it will be trivia or it would just repeat whats well known already, but if you can recommend some of those videos moght be good.

i will try with "Ending the forever housing crisis" (no high expectations, but lets see)

lets add, i am not claiming the ideal of bitcoin alone can change ...

2026-09-04T19:59:34Z

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lets add, i am not claiming the ideal of bitcoin alone can change things, no the ppl have to organize independently from billionaires.

we have the knowledge and the means to do it and adopting e.g. bitcoins, billionaires also have no way to print their way out of this, BUT ...if we adopt money billionaires cant print, we still need to build alternative open source based supply chains too and we can 🙂 ...and there is a lot of anthropology

feel free to expose me to it instead of defering to something ...

2026-09-04T19:54:42Z

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feel free to expose me to it instead of defering to something nebolous as if i wasnt familiar with a lot already 🤷‍♀️

i guess we jave a very different understanding of ...

2026-09-04T19:50:25Z

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i guess we jave a very different understanding of "technology" ...sid meiers civilization comes to mind. the wheel is a technology. the pencil is a technology, the hammer or the printing press are technologies.

sure, humans are humans, but the past of peast resistance or effort gets changed via technology.

We take democracy for granted, but without paper ballots, the alphabet, numbers, ... as technology, we wouldnt have it.

hmm... i dont agree. we have power politics because everyone ...

2026-09-04T19:02:07Z

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hmm... i dont agree. we have power politics because everyone wants to capture the money printer for their own goals. take it away and politics change radically.

the "payment system" very much decides who suffers in economic crisis, because the rich get bailed out, always, one way or another ...and the losses are socialized, always ... the method by which its done is the printing press

a system is what a system does, especially if it does or did that ...

2026-09-04T16:16:27Z

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a system is what a system does, especially if it does or did that consistently since forever and has never done it in any other way one might naively expect

one can also summarize it as money printers working for the billionaire class and always have, at least since 1971, but technically aince forever, because any other limitation that existed was just on paper - some kind of self imposed limits that go out the window when inconvenient

will do. sry 🙂 hope you saw my reply about "whats ...

2026-03-24T21:47:27Z

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will do. sry 🙂

hope you saw my reply about "whats money" ...to figure out where our definitions differe or maybe what the misunderstanding is all about

its not necessary. obviously you can do it trust based if ...

2026-03-24T20:49:33Z

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its not necessary.
obviously you can do it trust based if everyone plays along.

supply chains are anonymously large and i've never seen trust scale apart from using money - and if one does then better not one a billionaire class prints to enrich themselves and scam us all, like e.g. elon & co.

There is only ONE EXCEPTION: When banks buy stuff, they create ...

2026-03-24T04:13:30Z

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There is only ONE EXCEPTION:

When banks buy stuff, they create money and use it to pay the seller - that is THE ONLY WAY how banks can pay under fiat money 🙂

I appreciate questions to clarify this definition as needed.

just to make it clear: different currency types are better/worse ...

2026-03-24T04:11:29Z

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just to make it clear:

different currency types are better/worse money based on inherent properties/rules that govern them.

BUT in fiat money, positive balance denominated in (e.g. USD, EUR, GDP, YEN, ...), are NOT created via buying/selling of goods or services, but by banks when others take out loans.

Loans mint new money.
debit: The money is the banks debt.
credit: The debtor ows the bank equally

They cancel each other out.
Paying back loans burn money.

Many things have been used as money throughout history, but ...

2026-03-24T04:05:19Z

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Many things have been used as money throughout history, but today, the only money that matters is fiat currencies (the money created by (central) banks and/or governmemts) and maybe some alternative forms like bitcoin, crypto and so on - who all have different rules and properties governing them.

Fiat money is debt created by banks, not other market participants. Normal market participants cant create fiat money.

Okay, lets get definitions clear please: 1. Money is denominated ...

2026-03-24T04:01:10Z

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Okay, lets get definitions clear please:

1. Money is denominated in a currency (e.g. USD, cigarettes, etc.. anything ppl accept as means of payment & price goods in)
2. sellers price stuff & buyers become debtors who owe sellers the price
3. debtor normally settles by paying price in money
4. Buyers need a positive transferable balance in a currency to be able to use it as money to pay debt

money is not created by the act of exchange. money is different ...

2026-03-23T17:34:52Z

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money is not created by the act of exchange.

money is different from barter, but also from credit.

an act of bidirectional exchange is barter and comes with its own problems.

an exchanfe where just one side provides is a donation or a credit/loan

That is different too. a credit/loan has to be settled later on.

you use either goods (as in barter) or money to settle it.

So paying money is used to SETTLE debt 🙂

I dont know what the "essence" of goldbuggery is for you, ...

2026-03-23T02:01:30Z

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I dont know what the "essence" of goldbuggery is for you, but gold and bitcoin have little to nothing in common, despite maybe "goldbugs" or some people claiming otherwise.

gold and bitcoin share no properties.
Thats also the reason why lots maybe most goldbugs dont touch bitcoin and only a small minority in bitcoin might have been former goldbugs who moved on.

tokenomics or tokens in general have nothing to do with gold either - much more with fiat

yes they can. bitcoin is just a social contrqct you can opt into ...

2026-03-22T18:44:33Z

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yes they can.
bitcoin is just a social contrqct you can opt into buy using it.

it allows anyone to sell for bitcoin and have a guarantee from all others in the network they will sell to you for bitcoin.

if you dont have bitcoin you should start out by earning some first, but ...it doesnt prevent you by buying from somebody who trusts you to pay back later - thats always possible .... can even be a group, but its a individuals/group based special agreement

house prices are inflation too. ...and this will NEVER be fixed ...

2026-03-21T20:29:22Z

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house prices are inflation too. ...and this will NEVER be fixed until we all adopt bitcoin and end the printer class...

...we can ignore this, but it just means picking the side of the epstein fraudster class 🤷‍♀️...why would anyone do that?

no. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network

2026-03-21T18:27:37Z

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no.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network

this seems wrong on so many levels. 1. bitcoin lightning is ...

2026-03-21T18:02:17Z

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this seems wrong on so many levels.

1. bitcoin lightning is instant, not slow, so pizza is paid, no worries
2. among blockchains its relatively small and downloads faster than others
3. volatility exists, but value grows, all others dont
4. bitcoin certificates are fiat. dont do it. use lightning in self custody instead, that works
5. you cant sign numbers and share them ppl could "double spend" (copy the signed number)

i dont really understand what you are saying or what problem you ...

2026-03-21T16:59:21Z

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i dont really understand what you are saying or what problem you are referring to.

are you saying you want to work for money which others print to becoke billionaires and you watch house prices explode? ...it that a fetish you have?

also -goldbugs and bitcoin share little to nothing. some goldbugs converted to bitcoin, many others didnt, but also ppl from all other backgrounds like bitcoin. its not a goldbug thing and there is little in common

i think hoarding is not a problem, because money is never scarce. ...

2026-03-21T16:55:25Z

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i think hoarding is not a problem, because money is never scarce.

thebproblem is some print to buy everything and we pay the bill.

if some hoarded we would get more wealthy because prices would drop

it doesnt even matter. precious metals dont help, because its not ...

2026-03-21T01:50:52Z

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it doesnt even matter. precious metals dont help, because its not for ppl - its too slow, too impractical and too easy to steal when average ppl have it - ...so in practice you end up with "paper gold" ...owning a certificate that represents gold ...which is again paper money, just like fiat and a bank run will show you immediately how things collapse

I think this is just absolutely idiotic or even borderline evil. ...

2026-03-21T01:44:57Z

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I think this is just absolutely idiotic or even borderline evil.

If there is fixed monetary supply in an economy then price changes will give real feedback to people. Price changes will tell people whether the economy grows or shrinks or stays the same.

If ppl start hoarding, then prices will deflate, good for everyone, if ppl stop hoarding prices will inflate temporarily until nobody hoards and the maximum is in circulation.

nah, the measurement are prices. you measure prices in a ...

2026-03-20T19:12:02Z

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nah, the measurement are prices.
you measure prices in a currency, but if the denominator changes, its a futile exeecise.

the money is just what you measure with.

price stability is a ridiculous concept invented by mad men, it shields ppl from feedback about growth or decline of the economy by seeing prices around them.

yeah, the problem is the poor and rich divide is growing because ...

2026-03-20T19:09:57Z

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yeah, the problem is the poor and rich divide is growing because the strongest asshole in town with the biggest military captures the money printer and printa the money the rest of us is working for. fiat is backed by "proof of might" ...very expensive too.

bitcoin works more like an immunesystem that monitors and only fires up when under attack, which is now, to irradicate proof of might (e.g. military).
block rewards will stop so mining means loss afterwards

i am saying this, because if you had more or less money in ...

2026-03-20T18:59:34Z

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i am saying this, because if you had more or less money in circulation and everything else stays the same (e.g. demand and supply of services and goods) then prices just adapt and you keep the same buying power.

nothing here is scarce and therr is no problem.

problems appear under fiat where the epstein class constantly prints money to defraud us, hence the growing divide between poor and rich. bitcoin inverts this by ending money printing to pay for upkeep

i think that is a misunderstanding 1. bitcoin is not backed by ...

2026-03-20T18:56:49Z

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i think that is a misunderstanding

1. bitcoin is not backed by something and "proof of work" is just a mechanism to defend the network against attackers trying to rob everyone

2. money is never scarce. the wording is misleading - i agree. only goods and services can be scarce. a limited money supply does not make it scarce, it just standardizes is - is 1lg or 1m as a standard measurement unit scarce? ...would you want constant change in what 1m or 1kg means?

feel free to get it started. i think its super hard and having a ...

2026-03-19T17:34:50Z

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feel free to get it started.
i think its super hard and having a transparent supply chain and maybe an app that supports this kind of economic relation might help it to exist in practice.

so far i dont see anyone trying and succeeding.
ripple tried and they stopped.

..if it was a good idea, anyone can start, because since XRP there is now room for somebody picking up the original ripple idea 🙂

i personally think it could be a complementary system to bitcoin

imho that has been tried by a project called "Ripple" and ...

2026-03-19T17:14:44Z

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imho that has been tried by a project called "Ripple" and it didnt scale so that turned into XRP.

The best or closest system to that today is imho bitcoin lightning and its amazing.

Maybe theres a way to scale the original idea, but it requires imho open supply chain and a massive amount of people keen to try hard to work with this and even then its unclear. if it works we can still switch to it, but bitcoin lightning with open supply chains could get us there

... that IS the centralizing/consolidating/bullying effect ...

2026-03-19T04:40:44Z

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... that IS the centralizing/consolidating/bullying effect Cy (npub1ekj…wjxt) mentioned, but imho misleadingly associated it with any kind of market in general, ...its in the money we use.

while i agree with the goals here and am in favour of street ...

2026-03-19T04:39:51Z

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while i agree with the goals here and am in favour of street markets and bazaars and farmwrs markets and mutual aid networks and worker co-ops and so on...
...i would step back and wonder what are prerequsites for those?

certainly all of the above have in common that they use money owned by the capitalists and billionaires, who would love all the above and then print money for themselves to buy the most popular ppl and products who are happy to receive lots of money we all work for

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2026-03-18T19:26:30Z

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demolition man.

2026-03-18T19:09:00Z

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demolition man.

dafaq is a "sigma chad"? where do you even come across ...

2026-03-18T19:07:50Z

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dafaq is a "sigma chad"?
where do you even come across this stuff? 😁
interesting filter bubble

not sure i agree with that logic. the leader has powers because ...

2026-03-15T07:24:19Z

In reply to nevent1q…4577
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not sure i agree with that logic.

the leader has powers because of followers.
get rid of the leader and a new one will replace them. it only stops when ppl massively start rethinking and unfollowing withdrawing their support.

Related and about Iran and not at all about Bitcoin, even though ...

2026-03-12T06:36:30Z

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Related and about Iran and not at all about Bitcoin, even though its a bitcoin channel.

I'd be happy to hear an opinion on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-i0C-CD1wA&t=1420s

The first 23-24 minutes are just rehashing history and the whole thing can be watched on 2x speed.

I'm not an expert, but its definitely a lot to take in - but imho worth listening to.

Good thing: It makes a prediction about where this goes, thus the theory based on facts but also assumptions is falsifiable in the near future

there cant be societies with complex division of labour that ...

2026-03-07T08:24:06Z

In reply to nevent1q…pg34
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there cant be societies with complex division of labour that makes anonymously large millions collaborate cross border in to produce our modern products and services without money. its the one technology that scales societies and nothing else ever worked, so we need money.

what else is left apart from bitcoin?
its the only actually decentralized solid infrastructure we have.
it doesnt solve all problems but lays a foundation on which we can at least start fixing

we habe proprietary closed source fiat money owned bt the epstein ...

2026-03-07T08:20:14Z

In reply to nevent1q…shzy
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we habe proprietary closed source fiat money owned bt the epstein class which they use to build their cantillionaires worldwide. the ever faster global debt growth is their too big to fail printing - its socialism for the rich. they keep profits and losses are for the unwashed masses.

all of web3 (=post bitcoin blockchains and tokens) are all silicon valley & wallstreet Venture capitalist funded centralized pump and dump schemes.

we are f***cked anyway and always have been. the elite always run ...

2026-03-07T07:58:34Z

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we are f***cked anyway and always have been. the elite always run their programs and used the new money to consolidate more power, form monopolies and pay fresh printed momey to themselves and their friends. ..less in earlier times than today, but price levels were also lower in earlier days... its always the same.

...and always will be, until we opt out of their money. bitcoin is the only shot we have. its the only schelling point to coordinate and it ends the game.

i think that IS the core problem, always. Name any major problem ...

2026-03-07T07:03:13Z

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i think that IS the core problem, always.
Name any major problem we face in society - we could solve it over night IF we were organized, but we are not.

If we all switched away from some big tech solution to the same alternative solution, we would all be "golden" and probably better off, but how do you coordinate at scale without centralized leader(s) ..or even basically against centralized leader(s)?

this issue has many names...

i am not sure everyone would agree with your definition of ...

2026-03-03T04:56:16Z

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i am not sure everyone would agree with your definition of blockchain.

you are saying "git" is a blockchain.

i'm not saying its not a possible (very literal) definition, but imho most ppl think of "global consensus" mechanism where everyone can contribute blockchain inputs permisionlessly based on the rules.

...that definition makes neither dat nor ssb a blockchain

also, all the alternatives you mentioned are toys compared to ...

2026-03-03T02:41:27Z

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also, all the alternatives you mentioned are toys compared to dat. it might sound harsh, but imho none of the above has the performance to build alternatives to popular mainstream apps.

yeah, i know its a mouthful, but imho existing dat apps prove it compared to others.

leading the pack is of course `keet` (which has a proprietary UI) ...but just to get an impression i can still recommend to at least try it - and then delete it again

dat exists for 13+ years and has plenty of apps build on top of ...

2026-03-03T02:32:13Z

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dat exists for 13+ years and has plenty of apps build on top of it. e.g. https://cabal.chat https://keet.io https://holesail.io https://maps.mapeo.app https://sher.fm
https://agregore.mauve.moe

...list goes on. there are dozens listed in https://dat-ecosystem org and those are anyway just the tip of the icerberg.

it totally hasnt had its fair shake in some circles imho

try all the above if yoy want.

...also dat has nothing to do wih cryptocurrencies or bitcoin

2026-03-02T21:52:05Z

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...also dat has nothing to do wih cryptocurrencies or bitcoin

the latest signed root verifies all data of the log, because ...

2026-03-02T21:51:44Z

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the latest signed root verifies all data of the log, because after appending, the new signed merkle root still includes the entire older merkle tree too.

it is immutable, because change can be detected. it would change the merkle tree hashes.

its not about nothing has been deleted, its just if somebody has ...

2026-03-02T21:28:10Z

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its not about nothing has been deleted, its just if somebody has the data, you can verify it is part of the log (=hypercore) ...but doesnt mean the data has to be there `feed.clear(...)` drops data

you can delete branches from the tree and then nobody can get ...

2026-03-02T21:15:43Z

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you can delete branches from the tree and then nobody can get that data anymore. if you just evict it from your cache, you can re-download it from the p2p network given somebody still seeds the data.

you can also build applications where you rewrite history (feed.truncate()) ...that will increase the hypercores `.fork` counter and its detectable. use cases are when you use `autobase` to have multi writer hypercores

both. you of course only validate the parts you sparsly replicate ...

2026-03-02T20:59:17Z

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both.
you of course only validate the parts you sparsly replicate and validate the rest later on.
this is what merkle proofs enable

i love ssb. i just wish p2p enthusiasts would embrace it to ...

2026-03-02T19:08:51Z

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i love ssb.
i just wish p2p enthusiasts would embrace it to rebuild ssb just the way it is, but now you can sync only the tip of feeds and drop old data because it inherently supports sparse but verifiable replication, which would alleviate one of ssb's limitations

this could be fixed by rebuilding ssb on top of dat which ...

2026-03-02T19:06:44Z

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this could be fixed by rebuilding ssb on top of dat which inherently allows for sparse replication

plenty of apps exist. dat-ecosystem has dozens of them, multiple ...

2026-03-02T05:01:19Z

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plenty of apps exist. dat-ecosystem has dozens of them, multiple messengers, vpn's, radios, filesharing tools, p2p maps, p2p rss readers and even browsers and runtimes.

no you dont. you start with a hypercore's public key as its ...

2026-03-02T05:00:00Z

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no you dont.
you start with a hypercore's public key as its address to lookup peers and sync some log entries torrent style. you also sync a handful of "tree nodes" (=merkle proof) with a merkle root signature to verify data integrity using the pubkey you started with.

verifying means you can sync data from any random peer bittorrent style, but you know the data is exacty what the author published and wasnt accidently or maliciously changed.

you can use the the dat p2p network without hypercore, but alao ...

2026-03-02T04:42:39Z

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you can use the the dat p2p network without hypercore, but alao hypercore scales perfectly well, the more peers, the better it scales, just like torrents do, but then again in peer to peer you dont need global consensus.

i feel this is not really leading anywhere though 🙂

then ssb is a blockchain as well, even more so than dat. i ...

2026-03-02T03:45:54Z

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then ssb is a blockchain as well, even more so than dat. i understand that one can define it like that, but imho if there is no token/cryptocurrency involved i would not call it a blockchain. usually ppl hearing blockchain think of cryptocurrency.

if you'd call dat blockchain, one should be aware it means every peer usually creates loads of them and only they can write to it and also subscribes to loads of them only writable by others. consensus then means it was signed by owner🤷‍♀️

dat works now. ppl keep ignoring it, but its battle tested and ...

2026-03-02T01:10:31Z

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dat works now.
ppl keep ignoring it, but its battle tested and mature.

can recommend to use `dat` all the upsides, none of the ...

2026-03-02T01:09:14Z

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can recommend to use `dat` all the upsides, none of the downsides.

identity works multi device too. you can delete or edit posts too and nefsplits do nothing.

its not using blockchains or token either.

lets name them... whether greed or seeing humans as things.... ...

2025-12-16T07:00:50Z

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lets name them... whether greed or seeing humans as things.... you always have lunatics somewhere, but when it comes to wars and the fate of millions ...its not aboit greedy or nasty humans, its about greedy or nasty elites.

Thr establishment is a caste.
Its them and their kids over generations.
There is little to no social mobility here.

Framing it in another way acuses the millions and protect the elites.

i dont buy that and you shpuldnt either. tech os deflating ...

2025-11-12T11:13:59Z

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i dont buy that and you shpuldnt either.

tech os deflating endlessly, but ppl buy it even though every piece of tech is better and cheaper tomorrow.

deflation being bad is just a fairy tale indoctrinated to support the "money printer is good" story.

people live and need to eat and at some point they die, but bitcoin gets more valuable forever in theory... so waiting forever doesnt make sense

lastly, bitciins distribution is fairer than any other ...

2025-11-12T08:57:58Z

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lastly, bitciins distribution is fairer than any other (shit)coin, most of them with ICOs or premine or some other form of investors getting in early. Any coin that gets made today suffers the same issue, because capitalists are aware now.

bitcoin is the only one that didnt have an ICO or premine or anything else and launched before capitalists really figured it out

oh and regarding transactions. bitcoin is meant for everyone ...

2025-11-12T08:55:55Z

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oh and regarding transactions.
bitcoin is meant for everyone being able to participate and if thr main chain becomes too large, people cant run nodes anymore and thus it gets centralized.

for every day transactions, bitcoin scales by using the so called "lightning network", which is self custodial as well, so no intermediaries here either. The lightning network scales perfectly well imho.

hm. when it comes to scams/fraud/criminals, it seems all these ...

2025-11-12T08:53:38Z

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hm.
when it comes to scams/fraud/criminals, it seems all these pump and dump ponzis exist in "cRyPtO" a.k.a web3

bitcoin is quite transparent and easy to analyze compare to the rest, so it makes it quite inconvenient for criminals to use, unlike our traditional money, which hasnt with its offshore shadow banks that hasnt stopped criminals in the slightest and makes it much easier imho.

why do you say btc in particular would be useful for criminals - makes no sense imho

bitcion fixes this. what are alternative plans? ...there arent ...

2025-11-12T07:05:51Z

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bitcion fixes this.
what are alternative plans? ...there arent any.
the government hasnt helped with that since forever. it got worse and is now the worst ever.

how can anyone reasonably think this will ever change? ... there is only one way out and everyone adopting that path starts winning immediately and it only gets better from here.

why?
because the capitalists cant print it to devalue what folks earned

https://mri4all.org there are so many open source projects and ...

2025-10-23T04:42:11Z

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https://mri4all.org

there are so many open source projects and projects that describe how to make low cost medical equipment or produce low cost medication and so on... there are open tutorials for all kinda of procedures and methods.

..it all just has to become a movement and it needs to get applied to form alternative systems. thats it.

and once its working and open source, anyone can learn for free, copy/fork for free, etc... we can then philosophize how to tackle details 🙂

imho thats not abundance thinking. the problem is gate keeping ...

2025-10-23T04:39:53Z

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imho thats not abundance thinking.
the problem is gate keeping and all kinds of nonsense.

e.g. MRI4all hackathon made a fullly functioning open source mri machine in 4 days

largr scale and more systemically organized, the best "blueprints" could be replicated and used and could constantly be improved.

first make it work and get going before philosophizing of who gets to use it when imho.

as long as there is no alternative to now al philosophizing helps zero

hospitals are those big buildings with expensive equipment, but ...

2025-10-23T03:50:06Z

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hospitals are those big buildings with expensive equipment, but given how long waiting lists are and how expensive it is in many places... what wpuld it look like to have low cost low budget open source alternatives?

some medicine can be produces cheaply and relatively easily and ...some countries are so poor that hospitals are basic, but if you have skilled medical staff, who knows what can be achieved these saysm has anyone tried?

how about open source modular supply chains/networks with open ...

2025-10-23T03:47:53Z

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how about open source modular supply chains/networks with open communication.

instead of one hierarchical hospital, its all modular and organized just in time and on demand, where its transparent for anyone to observe and discuss, but not make decisions.

if things go bad somewhere, the functioning parts of the supply network can just each freely choose to collaborate with an alternative "module" instead.

this might be vague, but open source imho is the way for it all

So i assume you live in china then :-)

2025-10-14T21:18:53Z

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So i assume you live in china then :-)

🤷 i'm not defending western governments. you think/believe ...

2025-10-14T21:15:30Z

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🤷 i'm not defending western governments.

you think/believe the story.

i think power hierarchies set incentives and create systems and it does not really matter "where people come from".
Ones the rules/incentives change, they start shaping you regardless of background. Once somebody is put into a new situation entirely diffferent from where they came from, they start changing and what was formerly every day reality becomes a distant more theoretical memory.

there are people in western governments too with a "worker ...

2025-10-14T20:55:17Z

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there are people in western governments too with a "worker background" ...makes for great stories. once they move into politics they become part of that.

again, people bekieve in all kinds of things and i dont believe in representation.

these are all just nice fairytales and they dont matter really.

i already said initially that skme elites are benevolent for ...

2025-10-14T20:40:13Z

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i already said initially that skme elites are benevolent for various reasons, so we dont disagree, but tou forgot that i said that or rather laughed at it 🤷‍♀️

it happens in both directions. its not US or China. Its all ...

2025-10-14T20:36:23Z

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it happens in both directions.

its not US or China.
Its all governments against the people.

The reason this is the case is because its genuinely hard for millions of people to coordinate against elites that organize and play divide and conquer sadly

whatever. that name doesnt show up on search engines nor in the ...

2025-10-14T20:30:42Z

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whatever.
that name doesnt show up on search engines nor in the long article you linked.
the chinese firewall is real and thats evidence enough, that china is no better than the censoring west is.

Its oppresive governments everywhere. Arrogant ppl in government who think they know best 🤷‍♀️

i have been and lived in taiwan for a long time. i am not ...

2025-10-14T20:22:21Z

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i have been and lived in taiwan for a long time.
i am not supporting any side, but honestly it also doesnt lead anywhere. your universe is just a parallel reality

if you are so smart, then tell me what happened. i guess all the ...

2025-10-14T20:20:58Z

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if you are so smart, then tell me what happened. i guess all the news and video material from back in the days where AI generated then? 🫠

i dont. i would argue just as hard against the west and ...

2025-10-14T20:10:43Z

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i dont.
i would argue just as hard against the west and capitalism.... actually thats how the thread started. you and yogthos made it about china somehow 🤷‍♀️

lol. the west is colonialist and racist and china isnin theirnown ...

2025-10-14T20:08:22Z

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lol.
the west is colonialist and racist and china isnin theirnown way as well. the west has guns and so has china. china massacred on tianmen square and pressures taiwan. the west does the same. they all have guns.

i dont have guns and dont dream of guns.

billions of ppl dont care about the chinese government stories. they support the government because they see economic results. if that changes, ppl will change their opinions as well. its the same everywhere.

just get a "bitcoin credit card". you can participate in ...

2025-10-14T20:04:43Z

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just get a "bitcoin credit card".
you can participate in an economy without paying directly in bitcoin.

of course, making bitcoin illegal will hurt the country and its citizens, its just like self imposed sanctions, but it wont kill bitcoin as such.

in some countries citizens are unbanked and/or face strong inflation. bitcoin is an escape for the ppl against their corrupt elites where theybwpuld otherwise just face misery