npub18e…ld5jg on Nostr: yes, it's very true. But they are trying, and that's why one should really visit such ...

yes, it's very true. But they are trying, and that's why one should really visit such places or even try to join the communities. The one I mentioned is run quite effectively: they grow their own wheat, make their flour. They have a vineyard and make the wine, also olive groves - they make their own oil. All this produce is used by them but also gets sold - to local retailers. So the link to the surrounding hierarchies is there.