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Debunking some Zionist bullshit, their dishonest & delusional framing of reality
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Zionist cult is quite rampant on Reddit. There are so many bad faith framings they have written against us on the left.

Looks like r/Jewish board on Reddit seems to be one of their echo chamber, that not many people are talking about. I only came across this board today.

Here I try debunkuing some (few prominent) of the arguments as there are far too many dumb, delusional, bad-faith arguments they have come up with to justify their motivated reasoning — as to why political left hates them.

This is my attempt at taking down few bullshit arguments. You can go over the thread to read lot more gaslighting arguments they have formulated.

In the whole thread, they try conflating Zionism & Judaism, antisemitism & anti-Zionism. I am addressing these as many of these are Jewish Zionist arguments against why they feel they are persecuted in the fantasy world they created for themselves.

> I had a very left (now ex) friend and I get into a heated argument.
>
> I asked him “if a trans person tells you what is and isnt transphobic you believe her right?” Yes
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> “If a black person tells you what is and isnt racist you believe him right?” Yes
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> “Why are you, a non-Jew, telling me (a Jew) what is and isnt anti-semetic?”
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> UGH.
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> NEEDLESS TO SAY I HATE THIS PERSON NOW

>> Why are you, a non-Jew, telling me (a Jew) what is and isnt anti-semetic?

We are telling you because you have not proved you are against settler-colonialism, against genocide, against ethnic cleansing, against racism, … We are telling you because the definitions of antisemitism that are injected into mainstream have the hand of Jewish supremacists i.e Zionists hands when they were formulated. We are telling you because bad-faith actors like you want to use your identity to give cover for a genocide & use it as a wedge to undermine Palestinians & Lebanese.

You can define any word to mean anything. But we will only respect those definitions that are created by good faith actors whom we trust. We dont allow a Nazi from a community to tell us what he feels as oppression. We can get the same information from someone who is anti-Nazi from the same community to know what oppression actually is. By speaking to anti-Nazis we dont get the Nazi baggage.

So, the only definitions we consider legitimate are those definitions created by a panel of all parties that are adversely impacted by the definition. Which is why the only definition that will have merit is the one created by anti-Zionist Jews, anti-Zionist Palestinians & anti-Zionist Lebanese.

All existing definitions are corrupted by Zionists to be taken seriously.

> Thank you so much for this post. Voices like yours cut through the gaslighting that many Jews throughout the world are experiencing.
> In the US, Jews are are less than 3% of the population, that's less than other minorities such as Blacks and Hispanics who are in the double digits and half as much as Asians. The difference in dynamic between a majority and a minority vs a majority and a micro-minority is significant.
> When there's such an absolute deluge of voices undermining your experience, it's not hard to get to "maybe I'm just overreacting then". So thanks again for your post.

Jewish supremacists are not a minority in Genocidal Entity. They are not a weaker group facing persecution. They are the ones conducting a genocide with the help of most powerful countries in the world, against those who barely have weapons to defend themselves.

Neither Blacks nor Hispanics are committing genocide against other people actively. There are intra-Black war crimes (and may be genocides being committed in Africa, by one group against other). They are not getting open support from mosr powerful countries in the world to commit those crimes so openly. Nor are those who are committing genocide demanding their genocide needs to be treated differently than everyone else's, while they commit genocide.

So, your demand that you are only 3% (you are mixing Zionist Jews with anti-Zionist Jews, we can see what you are doing there, but for now I addess this question assuming I am addressing Zionist Jews alone), hence should be treated as an oppressed person in the context of Palestine is nothing but professional gaslighting, esp when all you are doing is demanding those genocidal criminals in West Asia needs to treated different than other genocide criminals, because those committing genocide belong to the Jewish community. Why should society grant you that?

Besides, % of a group if immaterial when it comes to oppression. For e.g, Rich are only a handful of people, that doesnt necessarily mean we allow them to define what oppression means. President/Prime Minister is only 1 person relative to rest of society, doesnt mean they are oppressed or should we expect them to tell what oppression is vis-a-vis the population they lord over.

All that matters is what you are demanding & whether what you are demanding is fair or not. In this case of genocide, its not just unfair, its you demanding everyone should shutup & allow you to support genocidal criminals. We have no good reason to allow you to do that.

BTW, you are not overreacting. You are too entitled to think others will not be able to see thru your bullshit reasoning.

> My sister had this happen to her. Over the course of half a year, she went from (skeptical) Democrat to right-leaning Trump voter. She took her anger at the left into devotion to the right, …

Yes, she is perfectly rational person. She became a Nazi in order to give to Left. We are dealing with genius minds here.

> Agreed. I was a very hard core, super lefty. And the amount of anger I held was reflected in my beliefs. I was ok with political violence if it was against someone I didn’t like but would have been upset if political violence took out someone I liked. In short, I was a hypocrite. I kept quiet on things I knew I didn’t agree with but would not go over well with my friend group.
> For the last several years I just can’t. The left have become delusional and hypocritical maniacs who love violence when it affects those they hate. They’re liars about things like gun control and it’s rejected in their undying love of Luigi mangione.

They are genuinely clueless.

I am for disarming & punishing (which can take violent form, altho I am not a physical violence type person) those who harm others in the service of enforcing/maintaining structural domination. I am against other forms of violence.

So, it's perfectly legitimate to use violence against an oppressor, to disarm him & stop him from dishing out oppression. So, there is nothing hypocritical nor are there any lies when it comes to violence (or) gun control. I am not at all convinced by gun control as its a hurdle in the way of emancipation. There will be peasant-on-peasant violence without gun control, but I dont think will ever reach Anarchy without peasants having experience in handling guns.

I am reasonably confident that a reasonably sensible position of any leftist who is serious about actual real world change would come to sooner than later, unless they think State (that dishes out all existing injustices) is their saviour.

> And they believe that Zionists are not Jews.

Zionists ≠ Jews.

Zionists = Jewish supremacists

Both are not same.

> My whole liberal community voted Trump this past election that’s how pissed off they were. And then people wonder why Pennsylvania flipped Republican…

Fashlibs are Socially Fascist & Economically Liberal. So, nothing surprising there.

You can read more Zionist bullshit here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comments/1hk5zfs/its_truly_insane_how_the_left_abandoned_jews/

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