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REAL NATIVE AMERICANS DEBUNKED THE FALSE "TWO SPIRIT" NARRATIVE DECADES AGO PART I

FROM THE COMMENTS SECTION OF Indian Country Today (A CIA controlled newspaper)

June 14, 2016

The whole "Two Spirit" nonsense started blowing up in the United States after an article was published claiming that the "Two Spirit" tradition was present in all Indigenous nations and homosexuals were considered "sacred" to Indigenous people and all possess special psychic powers. A commentor named Derek with a podcast called Skepticality decided to promote it as "solid research" and implied it was a whole book rather than a short article
https://archive.org/details/Skepticality-TheOfficialPodcastAndRadioShowOfSkepticMagazine

Comments from Indigenous people were deleted on the skeptic website and the public chose to beleive a "skeptical" podcast over legitimate tribal members trying to debunk the nonsense put out in the original article.

Here are a few comments posted to Indian Country Today that were preserved. They are typical of comments from authentic tribal members posted all over the Internet almost a decade ago. As usual, the public listened to authority figures claiming to be "skeptics" and completely ignored the "lived experience" of people with legitimate ties to Indigenous communities.

COMMENT:
"Please stop misrepresenting native culture by spreading white homosexual colonialist propaganda and BS lies like this, by confused individuals who persecute and bully Elders and other natives who state the facts about the real traditions by calling them names to keep them silent. Are you going to start printing the fake Hopi prophecies and Elizabeth Warren's true story of being a Cherokee princess next?

This was started by Harry Hay, a NAMBLA activist. It has nothing to do with native culture.
Topic: Radical Faeries (Read 3505 times) educatedindian Posts: 4036 Radical Faeries «
on: April 13, 2006, 05:29:07 pm »
Found this group mentioned doing a search on Sams. Seems their late founder Harry Hays invented the term two spirit. One site mentioned his group the Radical Faeries do Native or what they think are Native rituals.
https://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/hay_h,3.html

"Meetings of the Radical Faeries generally occur in rural settings, and their celebrations combine Native American and New Age elements. The first took place in the desert near Tucson, Arizona in September 1979. Since then the Radical Faeries movement has spread across the United States and also to Europe....Stuart Timmons published a biography, The Trouble with Harry Hay, in 1990, and a collection of Hay's writings, Radically Gay: Gay Liberation in the Words of Its Founder, appeared in 1996. When in 1999 the choice of grand marshal for San Francisco's Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Parade was put to a public vote for the first time, Hay was the winner. He was also the subject of Eric Slade's PBS documentary Hope along the Wind: The Life of Harry Hay (2002)" They seem decentralized much like the Rainbow Tribe.

Posts: 4036 Re: Radical Faeries « Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 05:33:24 pm » The good post that started me looking into this.
https://skepticality.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=69&highlight=jamie+sams

"After Derek’s exhaustive 40 minute search in the American History section of a bookstore, he proclaimed that “the Native Americans had quite a few people that were revered in their society that were called two spirit people. … Now, they were called two spirits and considered a little more in touch with the divine in their opinion because they were considered to have the foot in two world and their spirits were more open and pure.??? I don’t know which books Derek stumbled onto, but it sounds more like he dropped by Barnes & Nobles or Borders notorious “Native American??? section. It is usually full of well know fraud and spiritual hucksters such as Ed McGaa, Jamie Sams, Lynne Andrews and the ilk. You don’t do serious research about Indigenous people at a bookstore. Both the anthropologists and the gay community are well known for fabricating information about homosexuals in Indigenous culture. It’s not responsible to perpetuate misunderstanding about the two-spirit myth. There was so much inaccurate information in your piece; I don’t know where to begin in debunking it.

~ Continued ~

SOURCE:
Indian Country Today
https://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/01/23/two-spirits-one-heart-five-genders
Archived
https://archive.ph/gMEDr


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