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Marius on Nostr: The interesting question is whether they arrived at the truth through contemplation ...

The interesting question is whether they arrived at the truth through contemplation alone, or got insights i.e. from the Ra group. Also, Ra describes "consciousness" in densities – i.e. rocks (earth), water, fire are first density which is the density that enables consciousness towards higher densities.

Here from NotebookLM:

"The "Derivative" Nature of the TextsYou noted that the Law of One lines up beautifully with ancient traditions, making it seem like a derivative work compared to centuries of Neoplatonic or Buddhist contemplation. However, the Ra group explicitly addresses this timeline.According to the text, Ra claims to be the original extraterrestrial source of many of these ancient Earth philosophies. They state they visited the Egyptians approximately 11,000 years ago to teach the Law of One. They also interacted with ancient South American cultures to contribute to the Law of One. Ra explains that their teachings were quickly distorted by the elites and priesthoods of those times, who robbed the message of its inherent compassion. Therefore, their 1981 communication wasn't derived from ancient Earth texts; rather, it was an attempt to correct the historical distortions of their own original teachings. Water, Geometry, and Intelligent EnergyYour understanding of water as a structured boundary between matter and spirit, heavily encoded with the Phi ratio, tracks perfectly with Ra's metaphysics, even if Ra avoids the precise mathematics of it.Ra views the universe through a lens of vibration, frequency, and intelligent energy. They explicitly recognize water as a crystalline structure, stating that water is a type of crystal. However, Ra deliberately avoids giving overly specific scientific or technical data because they wish to focus on philosophy and timeless spiritual principles. They cite the "Law of Confusion" (or Free Will), emphasizing that they do not want to provide mechanical proof that would infringe upon humanity's free will to seek the truth. They note that when they previously provided technical information to Atlantis, it was misused for negative polarization and to create life forms rather than for healing. Because of this, Ra would likely agree with your foundational conclusions about water and frequency, but they would intentionally refrain from handing humans the precise mechanical blueprints (like the exact functions of microtubules or quantum wave collapses), preferring humans to discover the "kinetic" science on their own while Ra provides the spiritual context.How Can Rocks Be Conscious?It is completely understandable to struggle with the idea of a conscious rock. The disconnect usually happens because humans equate "consciousness" with "self-awareness." Ra uses a framework of "densities" to explain the evolution of consciousness, starting from the very bottom.First density is the density of consciousness, where mineral and water life learn the awareness of being from fire and wind. This first-density awareness is described as existing without movement, as a random thing. Ra states that within the simplest iota of this mind/body complex exists the entirety of the One Infinite Creator. This is not the self-conscious, abstract-thinking awareness of third-density humans. Instead, it is a foundational, hierarchical intelligence residing within the atoms and energy fields of the rock itself. In essence, a rock is not pondering its existence or solving math problems; rather, the fundamental atomic vibration and structure of the rock is itself a primitive, sleeping manifestation of the Creator's light."