I think there was some Alan Kay lecture where he cited the individuals, by name, who supposedly coined the terms: "computer engineering" and "computer science" and while I can't remember what lecture, or what names those were off the top of my head (and I don't really want to spend the inordinate amount of time to try to find those specific lectures again right now) I seem to recall he described the phrases as: aspirational.
As in, perhaps someday, with sufficient effort, there might be computing that is on the level of engineering, or science. ;)
