"It is going to get so much worse."
For the first of two end-of-the-year episodes of Pandemia, I talked to Demetre Daskalakis, the former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases who resigned earlier this year. We discussed what happened in 2025 at the CDC and how he thinks about the future of vaccines and public health in the US.
A quick thread
https://audio.podigee-cdn.net/2261030-m-bd8b2d4f4e95934e622aed48c9760c4f.mp3?source=feed
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