well and "cashing out" is also a scam. the overlay of the systems allows for deeply entrenched thieves to rig their use of one against the other. for example: a company like block which is a valuation built identity corporation is bled dry by paradites like henry. she has a traceable track history of this behavior. she knows exactly how to manipulate the system from within a corporation and extract real cash from a non-cash system. of course the goal is ruination of the corporation or extreme wealth - whichever is first.
https://wallmine.com/people/42700/alyssa-henry